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Was Ghandi Gay?
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Was Ghandi Gay? Please read this article:

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2011/03/dissent-of-the-day.html

and then let me know what you think! Straight people must get tired of the question. Was Lincoln gay? Was James Buchanan gay?

If you think of homosexuality as ONLY about the sexual act, then the correct answer is = we will never know. We don't know if Ghandi ever had gay sex because we weren't there. Photo or it didn't happen. However, as a gay man, I sometimes look at historical figures and think, "Oh yeah... I can really relate to that behavior... when I was closeted, I did those exact same things."

For example, read this section from a new book about Ghandi:

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The love of his life was a German-Jewish architect and bodybuilder, Hermann Kallenbach, for whom Gandhi left his wife in 1908. "Your portrait (the only one) stands on my mantelpiece in my bedroom," he wrote to Kallenbach. "The mantelpiece is opposite to the bed." The two pledged "more love, and yet more love . . . such love as they hope the world has not yet seen."

But when Ghandi thought about male-female relations, he wrote this:

"I cannot imagine a thing as ugly as the intercourse of men and women."

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If you are a straight man reading this post... can you read the above and see yourself reflected in those quotes? That straight sex was "ugly", but with a male friend you could make love as "the world has not yet seen"?

I think Ghandi might have been asexual. Bisexual maybe. Gay probably. But definitely not straight.


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Re: it is so passe to think in sexual terms

"Other than the reason you give... is there a *compelling* reason"...?

Um, there were two reasons I gave, not just one, Mr. Anonymous. Please read more carefully. And I think my points are persuasive. And I made my argument using 2% of the wordage you spouted.

"it is so passe to think in sexual terms"

Wrong. I am not talking abut sex. As my post started out - this is not about where Ghandi put his penis. It's about whether he had intimate emotional relationships with men. I think it's interesting, and makes him a more human person than the Ben Kingsley hagiography because it hints at a cause for his problems with women, his alienation from society, and his odd combination of global humanitarianism and local misanthropy.

Some of us like to study history, and learn from it. Create arguments and lines of reasoning, and discuss ideas about primal causes. You seem to be above all that because it's 'passe' to think.

"I've gotten over this excuse of not feeling good about my gay self because I had no gay role models growing up." My interpretation = you are comfortable with the whitewashing of history because you now have privilege.

"Why is 'gay' a worse dilemma for more kids growing up today than ever?" Not sure where you are getting your statistics. I think you're just making them up. Things I've heard from young gay people say that their peers don't care they are gay. Their problem is with the older generation of teachers and parents... the ones who grew up without gay role models or an acceptance of gay culture.

"Why don't we talk about 'What if it doesn't get better'?" Dan Savage's web site has some interesting people who make exactly that point. I'm not sure what you want to add to the conversation. I don't think you will try to add to that dialogue.

"That is my point." Delivered badly, but thanks. Pardon for being cranky - I'm off to a funeral.

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