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Gay Marriage Part 2
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mudcub
And here is a hand chart of the status of gay marriage in the 37 "developed nations" defined by a vague notion of economic strength. Check out the definition at Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_country

It's odd to note the lack of gay marriage progress in Asia. I would have expected some recognition in Japan, for example. I may have left out civil unions or domestic partnerships in some European countries such as Austria or Ireland. And I've left all the smaller duchies and principalities at the end, since I didn't know their status at all. But it's sad to see the United Status standing alone for not having a country-wide gay marriage law. There is action in Italy and Australia and others, so we'll see if 2007 leaves us completely alone on this list.

X = full marriage rights 
Y = civil unions fully equivalent to marriage 
O = civil unions partially equivalent to marriage 

X Canada 
United States 
X Israel 
Japan 
O Andorra 
Austria 
X Belgium 
Cyprus 
O Denmark 
Y Finland 
O France 
O Germany 
Greece 
Y Iceland 
Ireland 
Italy 
Liechtenstein 
O Luxembourg 
Monaco 
X Netherlands 
Y Norway 
O Portugal 
X Spain 
Y Sweden 
O Switzerland 
O United Kingdom 
Australia 
O New Zealand
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Bermuda (UK) 
Hong Kong (PRC) 
Macau (PRC) 
Singapore 
South Korea 
Republic of China (Taiwan) 
Faroe Islands (Den.) 
Vatican City (Holy See) 
San Marino 

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Chigaimasu! (translation: You're wrong!)

I went to Tokyo and Kyoto last summer. You're right, there is an odd gay community in Tokyo. In a city of almost 13 million people, there is just one street full of gay bars (Shinjuku's ni-chome). Where are all the gay people? I liked those postage-size bars though... they seat about 12 people at the most, so if you go drinking there, it's like sitting with your friends in a living room. YOu can choose special bars for fisting, bears, leather, cowboys. Pick you kink, or bar-hop and try different things!

To me, Japan still has a back-to-the-50s feeling for social mores. Men are supposed to marry and have children, even if they're gay. I found that Japanese people kind of liked gay people (on TV, movies, etc.) as long as it wasn't *their* children who were gay. I'm still surprised, however, that Japan won't honor gaijin weddings likje Israel.

All the pornography, gay or straight, is pixelated or outlined. It's not just a gay thing. So, you agree with coachbear that livejournal is wrong about Australia? (see previous post)

I admit that I never went to Tokyo, so maybe it's the difference between New York City and Lost Springs, Wyoming (population 3.. don't you just love Google?).

About the state of "gay marriage" in Australia. I have the freedom to have a civil union with my partner, but it is not recognized by the State or Federal government. Legally, I can have a psuedo-divorce, where I can try to claim half of his property (or the other way around).

However, if I died, our superannuation is not guaranteed to go where we specify in our wills. It is up to the company's discretion, and they can (and do) often go for family members over domestic partnerships.

Personally, I don't want to get married. But that could change if I was to consider all of the financial aspects. I'm not religious, so I don't need to have church approval, and I don't need a piece of government sactioned paper to tell me (and the world) that I love my man. Plus, I look terrible in white lace.

I do WANT the legal recognition, but mainly for the other people that it is important to. There's no question that we are being discriminated against, and the denial of these rights has impact on people's family options, tax benefits, medical care.. the list goes on.

John Howard has been actively trying to get the legal definition marriage to specifically mention man and woman, excluding all others.

Saying all of that, I think that the majority of Australian people honestly don't give a toss if you are gay/straight or bi (and all of the other permutations), and would agree to legalize our marriages. So in that way, I think that they are much more open when compared to America.

Our vilification laws are such that it is techincally illegal to call people Faggots, Niggers, Gooks, etc.... and I think the usage of those terms are not as frequent as USA, but there are ignorant troglodytes in any country.

The Religious Right don't have quite the same impact over here as USA, either, however the Family First party is making too many inroads in this country for me to be comfortable.

I think that it's impportnat for everyone to remember that the gays in pre-WW2 had widespread acceptance in Germany, and we all know how that turned out. Yeesh!

Far out.. that's probably the longest I've ever commented on in someone's journal. You have my sympathies (if you're still reading).

I'm not really terribly political at times, but there's a little furnace in all of us. Blah blah blah.


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